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Old May 05, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #41
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Old May 05, 2009, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #42
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But quite often my saccer's BIP would not be activated, I was wondering whether it's because he was prioritising movement over skill use, anyone observed that too?
Yep - ran Mo/N and did the saccing myself instead by spamming the button - went much faster, plus I got the chance to eat some sweet points XD
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Old May 05, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #43
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Yes, Heroes are sometimes quite slow with BiP.

I solved that by equipping three superior runes on saccer hero. That way, [Resurrect] will only serve as "corpse refresher" once hero gets to 60DP.
That's some good optimisation stuff!

For IMS, I quite like the PvE skill Mindbender, which gives 50% faster casting time too.
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Old May 05, 2009, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #44
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I've also been farming beries with the 3 x necro heroes.
MM with Animate Bone Minion, AotL, Verata's Aura, CoP (have to use the last 2 manually after you get around 6 minions during the quest).
Bipper with Bip (done manually)
Resser with Ressurect, Restore Life

And me with Mo secondary and some heal spells for the MM (to keep the res loop going) + a running spell.

Also be sure to flag your heroes a little bit towards the middle since Toma sometimes gets stuck between Chuno and the wall. Sometimes it's necessary to reflag your heroes because they're running all over the place being chased by minions.

Edit: I also use 3 sup Runes on the Bip (max 3, 4th makes him 1hp with 60dp so no death after using Bip).
Usually get around 17 kills. I've also tried to take a guildie in the party a few times with the same setup, but somehow the ressers got confused which resulted in slower ressing and less than 15 kills).

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Old May 05, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #45
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I use:
BiP necro with Bone Minions x2. One of them is me.
2 Heroes with Unyielding Aura and Restful/Healing Breeze just in case.

Then I take turns saccing. First I start with Livia. Sac her, I make minions, I release UA while at the same time saccing myself, stopping at about 5 health. Get the quest, kill myself off, have Livia use her minions, then I just repeat the whole process. I got up to 20 once and usually get around 15-16 which is all I need.

Made 75k off those Berries haha.
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Old May 05, 2009, 05:25 PM // 17:25   #46
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Its not that hard imo.
I use spells like Desecrate enchants or whatever spell i see fit to lower foes hp down to 20-25% and hit several foes at a time. That way little munchie can eat fast enough to get minimum 2 berries/run, most of the time 3 berries, without much effort I have to say. 2 hero monks provide the healing we need.
If u have that extra quest activ its even better (forgot that quest name). The village gets stormed by Kournans, so u get 15-20 kills in no time.

I also let a 2nd account leech in the back while I do the run with my main account. That way i get 4-6 berries/run. To bad i can't get a 3rd one running on the same computer. lol

I supplied my accounts pretty fast and i'll be selling more then enough berries this week to make a nice profit.
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Old May 05, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #47
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I just used myself and my alt account with nothing but BiP on the bar.

3 heroes with animate bone minions, aura of the lich, vereta's aura, release enchantments and resurrect.

No healing was necessary in nm because Toma easily stood up to 20 bone minions without dropping below half health.

Very fast - got 3 berries per account each run (6 per run).

Frankly, can't get much faster since 3 is the max per run and you can't get the reward till time runs out anyway. About the only way to speed it up would be speed skill.
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Old May 05, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #48
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But cause the prices are dead now ill show ya my build, not a big surprise really.

3x necro with (death 12; [Aura of the Lich])(death 12, soul reaping 12; [Animate Bone Minions][Verata's Aura][Contemplation of Purity][Light of Dwayna][Vengeance])

Then as a Mo/N i ran BiP with contemplation of purity and [Judges Insight] which i kept on Toma so he could get em below 20 VERY quickly.

I pretty much created an infinite loop, no healers or anything... dono why some retards are bringing healers for the MM's, when they die they lose their minions instead of waiting for Veretas to recharge.

How it worked was I zone in, kill myself like 10 times making alotta minions (+ 1 minion for aura of lich, so about 23). Killing myself was easy cause i just bip to death or use contemplation on recharge for instant death via Vengeance. If a hero dies... thats good! loses his minions, another 2 get born cause of bone minions, and then he's ressd with vengence so he's gonna auto die again and create more minions and lose his! in the end theres about 40 minions or so running around without a master and toma just eats em up pretty quickly. Light of dwayna is for a quick aoe res which helps if u have 2 mm's down at the same time
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Old May 05, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #49
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I did someone a good turn today by giving away FREE my last 1 juni berries and got called a noob haha. The mentality of some people never ceases to amaze me.
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Old May 05, 2009, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #50
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my gawd I have run so many berry runs I hope never to see another juju berry. Made over 200k though doing it. That is some awesome money people are paying for those things. I never took less than 1k ea and got 2k ea early when it first started. Gotta love Anet for making new easy ways to make easy fast cash for those of us with willpower to do these things over n over n over n over n over n over to the infinite time of over times infinity plus shipping and handling.
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Old May 05, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33   #51
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dono why some retards are bringing healers for the MM's, when they die they lose their minions instead of waiting for Veretas to recharge.
Because they need to be alive to create more minions. If they die and the other resses him with resurrect, he has 0 energy and time is wasted not ressing the bip. Vengeance has too long recharge.

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Old May 05, 2009, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #52
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That's why you use Unyielding Aura to rez Dzjudz. I had to bring healing breeze because Toma actually did get killed by the minions, I had about 15 out. They were level 13 though, that's probably why.

Also to that guy that said " in nm" up there, the minions are yours they aren't going to be harder in HM lol.
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Old May 06, 2009, 12:01 PM // 12:01   #53
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Also to that guy that said " in nm" up there, the minions are yours they aren't going to be harder in HM lol.
I was wondering that: if your minions go hostile do they attack faster in HM than in NM or not?

For the record, I did this farm in both NM and HM and didn't see a difference in the amounts Toma chewed up.
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Old May 06, 2009, 01:09 PM // 13:09   #54
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Normally 10-12 per run though once got 15.

Did it with me as damage dealer (R/Mo) plus 2 monks and Jora. All 3 heros on avoid and I just microed jora round the area spawning the monsters and bringing them to me while i got everything down to 20% for Toma to eat.

Did buy the last 3 for 500gp each for the final amount needed for my alt account though , was just so sick of the frigging quest
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Old May 06, 2009, 03:22 PM // 15:22   #55
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Myself with /Rt for [Flesh of my [email protected]] and some self heals, two Necros with 10 Death Magic, [Blood is Power], and [Animate Bone [email protected]].

Pretty obvious. Sac one, raise minions, res dead one, sac other, raise minions, res dead one, etc. 12-17 per run. Gonna try to put in [Judge's Insight] and see if it goes a bit faster.
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Old May 06, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56   #56
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Also On my Main War, Toma is a no show hasnt been here in a while. Any suggestions?
THis quest is BUGGED , even if you don´t have the undead quest active or out of the quest list , TOMA is not showing , Chuno is giving you the quest , the timer starts but no Toma . After the timer ends , it says talk to Chuno to get reward , but when you head to the village Chuno has been kidnaped by Aliens (well , I don't have idea where he goes but he just dissapear lol)

This happens with my Warrior also so this quest is broken........ no way to do it with a warrior profesion .

@ ANET : Please move the magical-stick and fix this quest asap . Thank you.

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Old May 06, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #57
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THis quest is BUGGED , even if you don´t have the undead quest active or out of the quest list , TOMA is not showing , Chuno is giving you the quest , the timer starts but no Toma . After the timer ends , it says talk to Chuno to get reward , but when you head to the village Chuno has been kidnaped by Aliens (well , I don't have idea where he goes but he just dissapear lol)

This happens with my Warrior also so this quest is broken........ no way to do it with a warrior profesion .

@ ANET : Please move the magical-stick and fix this quest asap . Thank you.
That's not a bug.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Insatiable_Appetite

Check the bottom, by Anomaly.
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Old May 06, 2009, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #58
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If you could post a youtube link id appreciate it! Are you guys stating that you run it getting minions before you take the quest? Does this take any longer? I run and usually get two only as i said in the OP, haven't really found out anyway to get more =/..
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Old May 07, 2009, 05:08 AM // 05:08   #59
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I wish they WOULD fix the bug where it claims you have 20 extra seconds and then you don't.

What surprises me is that everyone has these fancy builds to improve efficiency, yet you all still seem to get just a few more kills than I do - and I'm just pugging it. Maybe I've been lucky with pugs, or whatev, but I've been averaging 12-14 kills per, sometimes 15, just with whomever. Admittedly the hero thing does eliminate the time wasted looking for people or looking for people to replace the people who left when they had enough, but still, I'm surprised.

I ran PBAoE fire ele, usually had a ranger, a couple dervs, maybe another ele, sometimes a war, and hero monks to fill in the blanks. We worked from the north gate, spread out to get all the nearby Mandragors and the little Kournan patrol, then swept up to the little fenced plot with the plants and the Veldt spawn. Our biggest problem was not accidentally killing the Frenzying termites. If only Toma would stop attacking when his Feeding Frenzy is recharging... I can't count how many carefully softened-up critters he killed without eating.

Had some funny moments early on, when we had this IDIOT necro in the party; she WOULD NOT STOP WANDING THE THINGS, wanded about 8 monsters to death before I finally kicked her on that group's 3rd run. In retrospect, she and Toma were perfect for one another.

Anyhoodle, I was considering farming more on Friday but I'm going to an RP thing so probably not. I shouldn't get greedy anyway... farmed enough for gifts on Monday, pawned 'em off for 25k, farmed a ton (like 30) on Tuesday and sold them for ~30k, bought Vabbian armor (spent like 7k just on linen, lol) and runed/insignia'd/dyed/redyed it up, still have some left over. So I'm happy - had a pretty good time, got some very lovely armor (hint: blue + silver looks really good on it, orange not so much), earned a little extra cash, and got the berry I needed for my incu kit. Also, that's the liveliest I've ever seen the Sanctuary - gj ANet for bringing life back to these areas.

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